Talk:Hurricane Charley

Hurricane Charley and the Chocolate Factory separate article

Section moved from Talk:2004 Atlantic hurricane season.

Given that Charley looks like it's going to make a name for itself by hitting Tampa at a significant strength, it's probably time to think about giving it its own article. Already had someone ask on IRC asking if it had its own article. I'm going to do it myself in a few hours if there's no objections (we need to move a little more rapidly than with most articles). -- Cyrius|✎ 02:33, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Go for it, you seem to be better with describing actions than me. I'm best at parroting the NHC. :P Incidentally, with the NHC now ignoring TD Bonnie, what's the best source of info? How long do we note Bonnie? Also, the last time Tampa/Clearwater was hit by a hurricane was, IIRC, 1912. So that alone makes this notable. Here's to landfall. --Golbez 05:07, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I'm parroting the NHC as well, with a few other NWS sources, and occasionally whatever pops up elsewhere (Jimbo's been tracking the storm and providing some local news links on IRC). As far as Bonnie goes, the NHC has had the decency to provide a copy of the Hydrometeorological Prediction Center's advisory. Some stats on hurricanes hitting Tampa are available elsewhere [1] -- Cyrius|✎ 05:40, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

It has been done. The intro could use some work. Now it needs an image! -- Cyrius|✎ 05:58, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Charley heads to Tampa

The wrath of God descends upon Wikipedia's server farm - Tim Shell

I prefer to think of it as an interesting and inconvenient coincidence. -- Cyrius|✎ 07:09, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I'll be here on wikipedia at least until either one of us loses power. --ssd 14:06, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC), FL

Ah well I am sure Jimbo will nip out into the middle of it to get some great GFDL photos. Pcb21| Pete 16:15, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Charley took a turn east and isn't even expected to hit Tampa any more. anthony (see warning) 17:47, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Presumably the UPS managed the Tampa power cuts OK, then? -- Karada 00:29, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

What Tampa power cuts? Gamaliel 00:33, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Word has it Tampa cut the power deliberately, instead of waiting for the network to be damaged by the storm. --Golbez 00:52, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps in some low lying parts, but certainly not in the entire city. I am posting from Tampa. Gamaliel 01:00, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Downtown Tampa had its power cut. Wikipedia's hosting center was running on generators from about 10am to whenever they turend it back on. -- Cyrius|✎ 02:04, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Today's Tampa Tribune reported that they planned to cut power, but never actually did so as Charlie changed course. Gamaliel 17:48, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Jimbo said that the hosting facility in downtown Tampa was running on generators. He may have misstated, misheard, or been misinformed, but he said they were on generators due to the power being cut. -- Cyrius|✎ 18:26, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Saint Petersburg, Florida also had its power cut. It's not strictly part of Tampa, but part of the Tampa Bay area, which is frequently referred to as Tampa. anthony (see warning) 12:39, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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I'm sad. Cyrius gets the 5pm updates, I empty my cache a half dozen times and www.nhc.noaa.gov still insists on giving me the 2pm update. :( What's your secret, Cyrius? --Golbez 21:44, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Which page are you looking at? I see both 2pm and 5pm versions. anthony (see warning) 21:49, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ I go there and it says Public Advisory #19 5 PM EDT, but when I click it, it gives me Advisory 18 Correction, 2pm. :( All the others work, except maps, but maps usually lag behind. But I wanna know why I can't seem to get 5pm. --Golbez 21:54, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

And of course now it works. Mutter. But it's off and on, it's weird. --Golbez 21:58, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/ is good when the official NHC site seems to be lagging significantly. They repost all the textual content from the NHC, after mercifully running it through a caps filter. Not sure what channel they use to get it, but it's not scraped off the NHC site. They're a bit overloaded today, so you may get an error page. -- Cyrius|✎ 22:01, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I've been using Wikipedia all throughout today and it was fine. It's weird how the storm completely missed Tampa and St.Pete. It barely even rained where I'm at. That NWS-NOAA website is kind of hard to navigate and understand. I was just looking on the Weather Channel site. Milk 05:09, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

From what I've heard from long time residents here (tampa) this is a common occurance. Even the news seemed to be urging that "this time it's really going to hit us" before the hurricane went on a different track, implying that there were a number of these same warnings in previous years. Still a lot of preparation, though. I saw quite a few empty gas stations, and they were out of vinegar (why vinegar?) and other items at the stores. anthony (see warning) 12:44, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Highlands County and surrounding Restored power promised by 24 Aug, Midnight. Sebring water never stopped, not contaminated. From the viewpoint of downtown Sebring, the county appears to be getting power basically from SE to NW, this makes sense because 1. NW is where the hurricane passed most closely. 2. There are at least two power companies. Glades Electric runs the SE part. Where the power is restored, it's said to be less reliable than normal so far. Public schools close for the remainder of the week of the 14th.

cuba damage

damage to cuba was not minor the Miami Heral reported today 1 billion dollar damage www.miami.com

--LegCircus 8/26/04

Then Be Bold and edit the article and pop that in. We only put in what we know, this is apparently new to us. --Golbez 17:18, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Robbie Berg

Where is a public reference to the "criticism" cited in the current version? Can't find anything but a short CNN interview, and it's not in there: http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0408/14/se.11.html

Reference to the AP story added. They don't have the exact quote of him criticising the media, or I'd have added it. -- Cyrius|✎ 23:06, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Map/Infobox

of the 4 major storms for 2004, this one lacks the map and infobox. I don't recall who was working on those, but I don't know where to find the map. Oh yes, it was Tomf688. --Golbez 19:11, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

I didn't start working with the hurricane articles until after Charley, so I never put an infobox in it. I've been thinking of making a standard template for the hurricanes, much like the ones for the hurricane seasons. --tomf688^(talk) 19:23, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

There are now Infoboxes for all hurricanes since the late 1970s, and slowly they are being added to all notable hurricanes (all retired names + notable pre-1950 hurricanes). For now, a picture, not the map, is included in all the hurricanes from before 2004, as maps can be hard to come by (especially for historical hurricanes) and they need to be standard. CrazyC83 6 July 2005 22:51 (UTC)

Hurricane Maria Stronger

Suggest adding a sentence to the first paragraph:

"During the 2017 Atlantic Hurricane season, Hurricane Maria became the strongest Hurricane to make landfall since Andrew."

Hurricane Maria made landfall in Puerto Rico with sustained winds of 155mph, making it the strongest forecastable Category 4 landfall possible on the SSHWS.Wade8888 (talk) 22:00, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

This would be an unnecessary exercise as the article is about Hurricane Charley, which was indeed at its time the strongest hurricane to make landfall since Andrew; the main idea of that particular sentence is to highlight the longer-than-decade timespan between Andrew and another storm of comparable magnitude for Florida or the United States. Since the crux of the sentence is about Charley, and not Andrew, Maria being the new "strongest since Andrew" ought not to hold any bearing on the Charley article. TheAustinMan^{(Talk·Works)} 22:09, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Should all of Charley's subarticles be merged into this article?

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was merge. _ZZ^Z'S 18:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

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The three articles are very short considering that they weren't significantly impacted and would benefit the tropical cyclone article if they were merged, especially since they are good articles. _ZZ^Z'S 00:29, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

• Support. There isn't much that's in those articles, so what little is there should be merged. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

  Actually, I'm considering merging all the subarticles, which includes Jamaica since the same rationale could apply to the article. Would you be okay with this, @Hurricanehink? _ZZ^Z'S 04:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

  Yea, that makes sense. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 06:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

  Done _ZZ^Z'S 10:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Missing material

This article is missing material that Charlotte Regional Medical Center had its roof damaged, https://wtsp.com/article/news/local/patients-evacuated-from-damaged-hospital-in-punta-gorda/67-396479681 and that Fawcett Memorial Hospital also had its roof damaged.https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/2004/08/16/fawcett-to-remove-storm-damaged-foof/28435595007/ Catfurball (talk) 23:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Do we really need to mention such trivial information? _ZZ^Z'S 14:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Catfurball:, the article already had the damaged roof for the first hospital you mentioned. At the time, the hospital was known as St. Joseph's, but it was since rebranded as ShorePoint Health Punta Gorda, also known as Charlotte Regional Medical Center. I added the other hospital being damaged, so thanks for that URL. And to Zzzs (talk · contribs), seeing as the hospital roof damage was already in there, I don't think it's trivial to mention a second damaged hospital roof in the same city. It barely adds any prose to the article. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: You are wrong ShorePoint Health Punta Gorda did not go by the name of Saint Joseph's Hospital, at the time of the hurricane it was named Charlotte Regional Medical Center. While ShorePoint Health Port Charlotte was named Saint Joseph's Hospital. And all three hospitals in Charlotte County had their roofs damaged by the storm. Catfurball (talk) 17:41, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Oh my mistake. It looks like you fixed it though? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:05, 26 December 2024 (UTC)